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Sorry Pluto is no longer a planet!

#1 User is offline   Specter 

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 10:01 AM

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PRAGUE, Czech Republic (AP) -- Leading astronomers declared Thursday that Pluto is no longer a planet under historic new guidelines that downsize the solar system from nine planets to eight.

After a tumultuous week of clashing over the essence of the cosmos, the International Astronomical Union stripped Pluto of the planetary status it has held since its discovery in 1930. The new definition of what is -- and isn't -- a planet fills a centuries-old black hole for scientists who have labored since Copernicus without one.

Although astronomers applauded after the vote, Jocelyn Bell Burnell -- a specialist in neutron stars from Northern Ireland who oversaw the proceedings -- urged those who might be "quite disappointed" to look on the bright side.

"It could be argued that we are creating an umbrella called 'planet' under which the dwarf planets exist," she said, drawing laughter by waving a stuffed Pluto of Walt Disney fame beneath a real umbrella.

The decision by the prestigious international group spells out the basic tests that celestial objects will have to meet before they can be considered for admission to the elite cosmic club.

For now, membership will be restricted to the eight "classical" planets in the solar system: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

Much-maligned Pluto doesn't make the grade under the new rules for a planet: "a celestial body that is in orbit around the sun, has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a ... nearly round shape, and has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit."

Pluto is automatically disqualified because its oblong orbit overlaps with Neptune's.

Instead, it will be reclassified in a new category of "dwarf planets," similar to what long have been termed "minor planets." The definition also lays out a third class of lesser objects that orbit the sun -- "small solar system bodies," a term that will apply to numerous asteroids, comets and other natural satellites.

It was unclear how Pluto's demotion might affect the mission of NASA's New Horizons spacecraft, which earlier this year began a 91/2-year journey to the oddball object to unearth more of its secrets.

The decision at a conference of 2,500 astronomers from 75 countries was a dramatic shift from just a week ago, when the group's leaders floated a proposal that would have reaffirmed Pluto's planetary status and made planets of its largest moon and two other objects. (Watch why some think planet size doesn't matter -- 3:39)

That plan proved highly unpopular, splitting astronomers into factions and triggering days of sometimes combative debate that led to Pluto's undoing.

Now, two of the objects that at one point were cruising toward possible full-fledged planethood will join Pluto as dwarfs: the asteroid Ceres, which was a planet in the 1800s before it got demoted, and 2003 UB313, an icy object slightly larger than Pluto whose discoverer, Michael Brown of the California Institute of Technology, has nicknamed "Xena."

Charon, the largest of Pluto's three moons, is no longer under consideration for any special designation.

Brown was pleased by the decision. He had argued that Pluto and similar bodies didn't deserve planet status, saying that would "take the magic out of the solar system."

"UB313 is the largest dwarf planet. That's kind of cool," he said.

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 10:03 AM

Aww - I always liked Pluto - the little fella at the back!! haha!
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 01:04 PM

Why cant they just leave things alone.
Now look at all the money that will have to be used for rewritting science and history books when that money could have gone to other needed projects.

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 01:09 PM

QUOTE(Strawhat @ Aug 24 2006, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why cant they just leave things alone.
Now look at all the money that will have to be used for rewritting science and history books when that money could have gone to other needed projects.

JMO


Amanda, I agree 100%. :yes:
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 05:41 PM

I guess all the astronomists were bored? *shakes head*
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 06:20 PM

Would they make up their minds!!!! blink.gif

A few days ago they were saying Pluto is a 'pluton' - giving it its own title as a new 'type' of planet. And that Charon, UB1313 and Ceres ARE planets being added into our solar system!!!

Man - just because they are called astronomers - doesnt seem to make them any more agreeable about decisions regarding astronomy! :laugh:

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 07:32 AM

:k1ocray: sky, I agree, poor lil' Pluto.. wub.gif

To think that a week ago they were gonna add 3 new planets.. which, by the way, I had already memorized. All for nothing, LOL

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 11:34 AM

Pluto, you will ALWAYS be a planet to ME. I don't care what those noodleheads say.
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Posted 25 August 2006 - 12:36 PM

What are the implications for astrology?
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Posted 25 August 2006 - 01:12 PM

Claire you took the words right out of my mouth.
I was thinking the same thing.
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Posted 30 August 2006 - 01:19 PM

It's Sad to See what Pluto has done.



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Posted 30 August 2006 - 02:04 PM

I agree things should be left be in this case. Pluto's been considered a planet for over 70 years... why change now? This whole thing seems senseless to me.
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Posted 30 August 2006 - 02:45 PM

LMAO, Specter! :biggrin:

I don't see wht the whole planet issue came up in the first place--was it really of such great importance? Why are they fixing something that wasn't broken?

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Posted 30 August 2006 - 09:18 PM

QUOTE(Augustine @ Aug 31 2006, 07:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LMAO, Specter! :biggrin:

I don't see wht the whole planet issue came up in the first place--was it really of such great importance? Why are they fixing something that wasn't broken?



Down here we say they do that to justify their salaries.

So, does anyone know what an astronomist makes and where I can meet one? :laugh:
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Posted 31 August 2006 - 01:50 PM

Well, since pluto represents power, transformations, the cycle of death and rebirth and the breaking down and rebuilding of things, its almost in its stars to be degraded...if you think about it...
PS, my uncle was born in 1930, the year that pluto was made a planet and now he is dying, the same month they revoke plutos planet status...just something to think about.

Edited: Because I'm an idiot, my grandma was born in 1930, not my uncle that is dying, he was born in 1927. I guess that changes my theory on that one...
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